CHAPTER 20
THE TOMBIGBEE ADVENTURES
The First and Second Creek Wars, The Fort Mims Massacre, The War
of 1812, and the Capture of Aaron Burr. Those were adventures that involved
the Carson family
Between about 1800 and 1820, very little is known
about the Thomas Jr. Carson family. In the chapters on the children of Thomas
Sr. (Chapter 2), and Thomas Carson Jr. (Chapter 3), there were discussions of
the family in the area of Southwest Alabama (Washington and Baldwin Counties),
along with what facts were known. This section of the website is to summarize
everything that his been derived to date on the matter.
FIFTH GENERATION (coordinated with the family of John C. Carson)
Thomas CARSON Jr. was in
Washington County AL (then Mississippi Territory), as he served on a jury in
McIntosh's Bluff in August of 1802, and in the vicinity of what is now know as
the town of "Carson" on 31 July, 1805. The 1805 tax roll shows that he owned
640 acres of the first quality on the west side of the Tombigbee river opposite
the mouth of the cut-off, 1 house of 37 feet by 18 feet, three outhouses, 25
acres developed, $3 per acre, total assessed value $1920. He resided in the
Tombigbee River area of Alabama in 1806.
He purchased land from John Jacob Abner, whose original
claim was in 1797, on 16 March, 1804 in West Tombigbee, AL. Nearby neighbors
were Thomas Bates and Joseph Bates, near the confluence of the Alabama and
Tombigbee rivers. Thomas Bates may have been the father of Sarah Bates, wife
of a John Carson, Thomas Carson died in 1807 in Washington County, Alabama.
See "MAPS" - one of which shows the lower Tombigbee River area and Thomas
Carson's land.
A Thomas Carson was a juror at the superior court at McIntosh Bluff, Alabama in
September of 1802.
The wife of Thomas Carson was (15) Jane "Jenny"
CARSON , who claimed on 25 Oct., 1815 in the Mississippi Territory, Baldwin
County (next to Washington County and Mobile, AL) "Jane Carson of the county of
Baldwin in the Mississippi Territory maketh oath that she verily believes on
the best information, that the Negro woman named Miley belonging to the estate
of her late husband Thomas Carson, of the value of four hundred and fifty
dolls. Was taken by the hostile Indians, that she has never recovered her, and
is persuaded from such accounts as she fully relies upon, that she was killed
on her attempt to escape from the Creek (Indian) nation. Signed, Jane Carson.
Sworn before me one of the judges of the Mississippi Territy, this
25th octr., 1815, Harry Toulmin. Also, a map from 1813, which
appears in the book on the History of Washington County, Alabama, shows that a
"Mrs. Carson" had a home on the Tombigbee River, a very few miles from the
confluence with the Alabama River, and the date marked by her name was "1813".
This would conform to Thomas Jr.'s death in 1807, and Joseph Carson's death in
1817.
On 19 Feb., 1807, the sheriff of Washington County, Alabama, captured Aaron
Burr, who was fleeing federal authority in relationship to his attempt to
establish an independent nation in Texas and what had been part of the
Louisiana Purchase. Burr had been Vice-President of the United States, and had
killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. One of the sheriff's posse had borrowed a
canoe from Joseph Bates, Sr., at Nannahubba Bluff in Washington County during
the pursuit. Bates is believed to be the grandfather of Sarah Bates, wife of
John S. Carson, father of Nathan Franklin Carson. While escorting Burr to
Pensacola, Florida, the sheriff and captive crossed the Tombigbee River on Mrs.
Carson's ferry, near Mount Vernon.
Jane Carson appeared on the US census of 1810, the Alabama tax list of 1811,
the Mississippi Territory census, and the Alabama tax list of 1816, all in
Baldwin County, Alabama.
SIXTH GENERATION
(1425) Joseph CARSON was the son of Thomas Jr. CARSON and was born in
1785, most likely in South Carolina. He accomplished a lot during his youth,
as he would have been 32 years old at the time of his death, Captain Joseph
CARSON received a pass from Georgia to Mobile, AL on 4 May, 1801, through the
Creek Nation from the Governor of Georgia. On 11 Nov., 1802, Major Joseph
Carson was issued a pass by the Governor of Georgia to pass through the Creek
Nation. On 18 June, 1806, he was commissioned as an Attorney at Law in
Washington County, Mississippi Territory (now Alabama). On 5 April, 1808 he was
issued a pass by the Governor of Georgia to pass through the Creek Nation,
having been recommended by Elijah Clarke. On 8 May, 1809 he was commissioned a
Captain in the 6th regiment, Militia of Washington County. If "Captain" Carson
is the same as "Colonel" Carson, he would have been only about 16 years old
when he received the pass to Mobile.
He was Trustee of a lottery before 1811 in Washington Co., AL. The lottery of
$5000 was to benefit the establishment of Washington Academy, located at St.
Stephens. He was a militia colonel in the First Mississippi Regiment, United
States Volunteers. He forced the evacuation of the Spanish post on the Perdido
River, 27 April, 1813. He was military commander of the territory between the
Alabama and Tombigbee Rivers, where was located Fort Glass and Fort Madison. He
fought the Creek Indians at their "Holy City" in 1812. He served under General
F.L. Claiborne from Dec. 27, 1812 as a Lieutenant Colonel until 30 April, 1813,
when he was promoted to Colonel. He served then until 28 Feb., 1814. He
received a salary of $75 per month plus $12 per month for forage. He also had
two private servants paid by the government. Serving under him was a Private
Joseph Carson - whose kinship is not known.
On 15 Oct., 1815, in Mobile AL, he made this claim: "I certify that about the
first of November last I was ordered by General Jackson with a detachment of
mounted gunmen under my command to form a junction with Major Woodruff of the
Third Regiment of U.S. Infantry near the ferry on the Perdido River between
Mobile and Pensacola and did form the junction with him as soon as possible he
had under his command about three hundred men of the Third Regiment and upward
of one hundred Choctaw Indian warriors. We were ordered to drive off all the
cattle found near the Perdido River to prevent the British and hostile Indians
(then in Pensacola) from getting them. I was informed by Major Woodruff that he
had previous to my arrival destroyed a large said boat at the Perdido ferry
with belongings of Francisco Suarez, a Spaniard by birth who then resided on
the American side of the Perdido River, and that he had orders from General
Jackson to destroy all the boats on that river. I afterwards destroyed
conformably to said orders a small canoe belonging to said Suarez worth about
ten dollars, the Choctaw Indians took of a number of small horses from that
neighborhood. Some of which were said to belong to the hostile Creek Indians
and some to the said Suarez, the said Francisco Suarez then and on several
former occasions when I was at his house professed to be much attached to the
American government, and submitted cheerfully to his losses as they were said
to be necessary, but expressed his hopes at the same time that he would be
remunerated for his losses by the American government ---Joseph Carson.
He was appointed Attorney General for counties west of the Pearl River on 1
April, 1813, but resigned on 28 Sept., 1817 due to declining health. He
appeared on the census in 1816 in Washington County, AL (Mississippi Territory
Census of 1816). He died in 1817 in Washington Co., AL, as a result of a
skirmish with Indians and was buried in the Old St. Stephens cemetery,
Washington Co., AL. Caroline C. CARSON, wife of Col. Joseph Carson, was
executor of his estate. A descendent, professor William Waller Carson, who laid
out Carson Station (a town on the Southern Railway) in honor of his
grandfather, Col. Joseph Carson, visited his gravesite a couple of miles south
of Old St. Stephens, and about four or five miles northwest of Carson Station.
He visited in 1870 or 1873, and found it to be a desecrated and vandalized
grave, located in a heavily wooded area. The vault next to Joseph’s is
supposed to be that of his nephew, who had come back from Texas. (note- who
could that be?)
His home was described as follows: "... a tract of good level land about two
miles out (of Old Saint Stephens). There is a large commodious house and all
convenient out buildings, something over 100 acres clear, good part fresh
land. The land is thin but level and kindly, well adapted to cotton. ... it
was occupied by Col. Carson an attorney near Baldwin's ...".
In 1817, he had been appointed as one of the three
councilors of the new State of Alabama, but when the first Council met on 7
Feb., 1818, Joseph Carson had died. He signed a will on 18 April, 1817 in
Washington County, Mississippi Territory. The bulk of his estate went to his
wife, Caroline Charlotte (Green) Carson. Executors were brother-in-law James
Green and wife Caroline. Witnesses were Wm, Baldwin, Robert Catter, and B.
George Buchanan.
He was married to (54) Caroline Charlotte (Green) CARSON on 16 May, 1814
in Adams Co., MS. She was born in 1794 in Adams County, Mississippi. She was
in Washington Co., AL on 7 April 1825. She signed a will on 7 July, 1831 in
Adams Co., MS, naming James Green Carson as an only child. She died after 7
July 1831 in Adams Co., MS. The only child of Joseph CARSON and Caroline
Charlotte (Green) CARSON was:
+47 James Green CARSON MD
There was an illegitimate child of Joseph CARSON and (56) Mrs. Patsy
(Brewer) JOHNSON of Pascagoula, based on the last will and testament of
Joseph Carson, previously shown above.
Joseph stated in his will that his mother resided in Pascagoula, Mississippi,
which is close to Washington and Baldwin Counties, Alabama. She must have
moved there sometime after the death of Thomas Carson Jr.
2006 John S. (?) CARSON was born in 1786 in Abbeville Co., SC.
His parents were Thomas Jr. Carson and Jenny (or Jane) Carson. He appeared on
the census in 1810 and the Alabama tax list in 1811 in Baldwin Co., AL. A John
Carson was married to (62) Sarah (Bates) CARSON in McIntosh Bluff,
Washington County, but the last will and testament of Sarah Bates' father,
Thomas Bates Jr., does not mention John Carson. The will also mentions a son
of Sarah's that is not known to be a child of her marriage to John. [see
chapter 19 for more information on John S. Carson]
1425 Joseph CARSON, Jr. appears in the records although it
is not possible to distinguish between the Joseph Carson described as follows
and Colonel Joseph Carson, described above. It is known that his mother was
Jane Carson, and the wife of Thomas Carson Jr. was a "Jane". He appeared on
the census in 1810 in Tensaw, AL. He was in Baldwin Co., MS Territory on 24
Nov., 1815, and signed a petition concerning loss of livestock by his mother,
Jane (Jenny) in the War of 1812. His wife was (75) Jane CARSON, who
appeared on the census in 1810 in Tensaw, AL. It is not known if they had any
children. Joseph had served as a private in the First Regiment of Mississippi
Territory Volunteers under Brigadier General Claiborne and Colonel Joseph
Carson (kinship has not been proven) from 30 Nov., 1812 to 2 March, 1814. He
was paid $8 per month and for his horse he received a total of $146, with a
clothing allowance of $23.22. He was posted in the Washington County and
Mobile areas of (now) Alabama. He appeared on the US census of 1810 and the
Alabama census of 1811 in Baldwin County, Alabama (now), listed as "Joseph Jun.
Carson". On 22 Dec., 1815, he was commissioned as lieutenant in the 6th
regiment, Washington Militia.
2020 Ann (Carson) CHAMBERS was listed in vital records in 1814
in Baldwin Co., AL. She was married to (72) William BATES on 12 Feb.,
1814 in Baldwin Co., AL. She was the daughter of Thomas Jr. and Jane Carson.
She later married a Mr. Chambers, but nothing is known of him.
Thomas and Jane CARSON also had another son (2019)Thomas S. CARSON and
two other daughters, (2021) Sallie (Carson) HOLLINGER and (2022)
Elizabeth CARSON. Nothing is known of these children and it is possible
that one or more died at the massacre at Fort Mims.
In 1819 the St. Stephens newspaper listed a letter at the post office for
Margaret Carson and forEnock Carson. In 1820 there was a letter
forJohn B. Carson and in 1821 a letter for Hugh Carson.
In 1820, a Robert Carson was Justice of the Peace in Washington
County.
SEVENTH GENERATION
47 James Green CARSON MD, was born on 8 March, 1815 in
Washington County, Alabama, and whose daughter, Katherine (Carson)
BRECKENRIDGE married Clifton Rodes BRECKENRIDGE, member of Congress
and Ambassador to Russia. Upon the death of his father, Colonel Joseph Carson,
his mother Caroline Charlotte (Green) CARSON returned to her parents' home in
Natchez, Mississippi with James, then two years old. James Green was living in
Tyler, Texas in 1847, along with his uncle, Thomas S.(?) Carson. He died there
on 11 Aug., 1863, and is buried there.
In summary, there is a lot of information on the Carson family in the Tombigbee
area of Alabama in the early 1800's, but it is not possible to establish their
relationships!!!!
SOURCES:
1. "The History of Washington County, Alabama", by
Jacqueline Anderson Matte,
Washington County Historical Society, Chatom, Alabama 36518.
2. "Frontier Claims in the Lower South", by Richard S. Lackey, Polyanthos,
New
Orleans, LA (1977).
3. Last Will and Testament of Joseph Carson,
dated 18 April, 1817.
4. "Encyclopedia of Mississippi History", Volume I, Edited by Dunbar
Rowland,
Madison, Wisconsin, Selwyn A. Brant, 1907.
5. Last Will and Testament of Caroline Charlotte Carson, Adams County,
Mississippi, 7 July,
1831. Certificate of Death #4026.
6. Military service records from the United States National Archives,
Washington, DC.
7. "Old St. Stephens Historical Records Survey". Compiled by Jacqueline
Anderson
Matte, Doris Brown, and Barbara Waddell. St. Stephens Historic
Commission.
8. "Family Records, 1845-1930, William Waller Carson", LSU Library,
Mss.2919